Comments on: everybody wins http://desk.stinkpot.org:8080/blog/index.php/2007/12/06/everybody-wins a memory repository Thu, 22 Dec 2011 13:59:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Lawrence David http://desk.stinkpot.org:8080/blog/index.php/2007/12/06/everybody-wins/comment-page-1#comment-3685 Lawrence David Sun, 09 Dec 2007 14:50:16 +0000 http://desk.stinkpot.org:8080/blog/index.php/2007/12/06/everybody-wins#comment-3685 We do that already -- see corn subsidies :) We do that already — see corn subsidies :)

]]> By: Andrew Louie http://desk.stinkpot.org:8080/blog/index.php/2007/12/06/everybody-wins/comment-page-1#comment-3642 Andrew Louie Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:18:25 +0000 http://desk.stinkpot.org:8080/blog/index.php/2007/12/06/everybody-wins#comment-3642 As an engineer I see it differently: Sun ouputs X energy = Q = (Q x n0) (or the amount of energy that the earth actually gets from the sun) Q x n1(efficiency of Life Engine, ie plants) = Hydrocarbon, H H x n2 (efficiency of Human Engine ) = useful work (UW) + waste therefore useful work = Q - (waste(Q,waste,dt)) *n1 *n2 The ability to harness Q is a function of the amount of waste(as in greenhouse gases) and time. you figure out how to make those plants produce more energy, and I'll figure out how to use that extra energy =P As an engineer I see it differently:

Sun ouputs X energy = Q = (Q x n0) (or the amount of energy that the earth actually gets from the sun)

Q x n1(efficiency of Life Engine, ie plants) = Hydrocarbon, H

H x n2 (efficiency of Human Engine ) = useful work (UW) + waste

therefore useful work = Q – (waste(Q,waste,dt)) *n1 *n2

The ability to harness Q is a function of the amount of waste(as in greenhouse gases) and time.

you figure out how to make those plants produce more energy, and I’ll figure out how to use that extra energy =P

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