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	<title>Comments on: build sturdy speaker or interconnect cable dirt cheap</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Lester</dc:creator>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_over_Ethernet

Standard Power Over Ethernet protocol allows about 15 watts, so I&#039;d say you could get double that before the wires start heating up. You could easily parallel the twisted pairs for more current capability.

What I&#039;d be more concerned about is simply noise - Ethernet is not stranded cable, and its setup is designed to reduce &quot;crosstalk&quot; in the MHz range of digital data. Stranded cable with more shielding is designed for analog, lower frequency signals. Though, beggars can&#039;t be choosers at this point right? =P</description>
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<p>Standard Power Over Ethernet protocol allows about 15 watts, so I&#8217;d say you could get double that before the wires start heating up. You could easily parallel the twisted pairs for more current capability.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;d be more concerned about is simply noise &#8211; Ethernet is not stranded cable, and its setup is designed to reduce &#8220;crosstalk&#8221; in the MHz range of digital data. Stranded cable with more shielding is designed for analog, lower frequency signals. Though, beggars can&#8217;t be choosers at this point right? =P</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for your insights chuck -- ethernet cable probably wasn&#039;t designed for handling high amperage loads :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for your insights chuck &#8212; ethernet cable probably wasn&#8217;t designed for handling high amperage loads <img src='http://desk.stinkpot.org:8080/tricks/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Malloch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck Malloch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2 comments:
 1) Ethernet cable consists of 4 twisted pairs. Each pair, as you have noted, is intended to represent one circuit path. So I would be careful to separate a pair and use one of the wires for signal and the other for ground; if doubling up as you suggest, still split the pairs and not use one pair for signal and one for ground. The reason is that the &quot;twisted&quot; in twisted pair essentially reduces the interaction with outside signals (interference, crosstalk, and antenna effect)
 2) I agree with this use for *low power* transmission, such as pre-amp outputs and so forth. But not for speaker cable use - an 80-watt amplifier will be putting 2-3 amps through an 8-ohm speaker, and I&#039;m sure that&#039;s too much for ethernet cable to carry.</description>
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 1) Ethernet cable consists of 4 twisted pairs. Each pair, as you have noted, is intended to represent one circuit path. So I would be careful to separate a pair and use one of the wires for signal and the other for ground; if doubling up as you suggest, still split the pairs and not use one pair for signal and one for ground. The reason is that the &#8220;twisted&#8221; in twisted pair essentially reduces the interaction with outside signals (interference, crosstalk, and antenna effect)<br />
 2) I agree with this use for *low power* transmission, such as pre-amp outputs and so forth. But not for speaker cable use &#8211; an 80-watt amplifier will be putting 2-3 amps through an 8-ohm speaker, and I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s too much for ethernet cable to carry.</p>
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